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Douglas Brouwer's avatar

Hi Tom, I sense that George Floyd's name touched a nerve.

My column was about the Dutch slave trade and the prime minister's apology and the reactions of my neighbors, friends, and fellow church members here in the Hague to that apology. I didn't mean to re-litigate the exact cause of Floyd's death, only to pass along the anecdote that Floyd's death caught the attention of the Dutch prime minister. Something about that death caused him to take racism more seriously than he had before.

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Hi Doug,

This is an interesting article about how the justice system includes medical forensics from a wide range of 'experts - or not.

When we see the media (who I generally trust) take hold of an issue, sometimes their main motive can be to milk it for as long as possible, to make the most money out of the incident. Sometimes they may be motivated by seeing justice done, for sure. But, if George Floyd was combative because he had fentanyl in his system, and had a heart condition, that could have been the main reason he died. Of course, I am not condoning a police officer to put his knee on a suspect's neck for a half hour, but how do you subdue a 220 lb, 6' 5" combative person who is on drugs?

The people who have died at the hands of the police are sometimes law abiding people, and sometimes they are people with prior arrests who are resisting arrest. My point is that things may not be as awful as we think. If someone is resisting arrest, in my book, they are just asking for it. What I have always told my kids, is if you get stopped by the police, comply and be polite. That is a good way to avoid a problem. But if you are mouthing off and resisting arrest, you can probably expect to pay a price. Of course, the price should not be losing your life, but if you threaten a police officer who is carrying weapons, that is just a bad idea.

"Rulings on causes of death are often not cut-and-dried and can be controversial, especially in police-involved deaths such as the 2020 killing of George Floyd. In that case, Minnesota’s Hennepin County medical examiner ruled Floyd’s death a homicide but indicated a heart condition and the presence of fentanyl in his system may have been factors. Pathologists hired by Floyd’s family said he died from lack of oxygen when a police officer kneeled on his neck and back.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/30/health/coroners-cause-of-death-khn-partner/index.html

This is just to say that things are not always as they appear, and sometimes the news media tries to use something to get overall justice, but the case in point may not be the best example of unfair police action.

Tom

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